November 30, 2011 82 Comments

Pasado’s Seeks Maximum Sentencing in AKC Judge Backyard Breeding Case

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Pasado’s Safe Haven recently launched an investigation into an alleged hoarding situation in Burien, WA and Issaquah, WA. Between two homes, a total of 100 small dogs were being hoarded.

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Many of the dogs found within the homes were in poor health, including missing or nonexistent teeth and vision problems including complete blindness. The Burien home housed 38 dogs, including Chihuahuas, Pomeranians, and Japanese Chins. In the Issaquah home, there were 62 dogs, most of which were in better health and in cleaner conditions. According to a sheriff’s office news release, all of the animals were in relatively poor health and were kept in extremely dirty dog crates. Sadly, while Pasado’s Safe Haven intervened on the behalf of these dogs, 14 of them had to be euthanized.  The remainder of the dogs have been taken to CARES in Burien.  Please contact them if you are interested in fostering or adopting. ((206) 81-CARES or (206) 812-2737)

The video footage obtained was shocking.

Image taken from video footage from the Burien home where 14 neglected dogs could not be saved

The basement was so dark that you couldn’t see your hand in front of your face. The windows were blacked out and there was ripped up plastic hanging from the door jam at the entrance of the room. There had to be a pungent stench of urine and feces. The sound of dogs frantically barking almost overpowered a radio. It was a sad, odd juxtaposition of sound: Alarmed cries and indistinguishable voices accompanied by old, loud music.

When a light was turned on, each little set of eyes glowed back at the camera. The brightness of the light was foreign and alarming to them. Some of them looked desperate, their cries and expressions begging to escape; some were neurotic, spinning uncontrollably; and others were hopeless, lying in the back of the little crates lined with urine and feces. It is hope that dies last, and their dejection broke our hearts.

The cage doors were rusted with mats of fur that were stuck to the bars. Fear was palpable in the urine-soaked air. Watching the video, we could feel the despair and desperation of each tiny soul who had been in these deplorable conditions for an unknown duration of time. Who could do this to living sentient beings?

As each face was illuminated with the light, our anger grew to rage: Rage for these voiceless victims who had suffered so long in silence. How long had they been left like this, stacked one on top of another? Their silhouettes seem to span the length of the room. How many were there?

The Owner is a Judge for the American Kennel Club (AKC)

Margi Hamilton, left.

When we discovered who owned these dogs, we were shocked and disgusted that one of the people responsible for this was none other than a judge for the American Kennel Club. The other person was also highly involved with showing dogs. Margi and James Hamilton were a “dog duo” and had been involved with breeding and showing dogs for decades. James was the president of the Puget Sound Doberman Pincher Club and a member of the Mount Rainier Working Dog Club for Great Pyrenees and Dobermans. Margi is a judge for the AKC and has achieved their highest standing. In the September 2011 issue of the AKC “Secretary’s Page,” it lists Margi Hamilton under Approved Breed Judges. Margi is also a judge for the American Rottweiler Club, a member of the Mount Rainer Working Dog Club, and she has had some of the top show Chihuahuas in the world. She was only a few days away from sending one of her dogs off to another big show when the truth behind her AKC judge’s badge was uncovered.

A total of 100 dogs were rescued from this “dog duo.” Of the 38 dogs pulled out of the unspeakable conditions in Burien, 14 could not be saved. Tragically, their lives were cut short when they had to be euthanized.

Law Enforcement is Working Hard to Assure Proper Prosecution

When Pasado’s Safe Haven reported this to Law Enforcement, they began an investigation. Soon after this situation was discovered, those little dogs’ voices were finally heard. Every dog was pulled from the darkness and out into the fresh night air. Each little dog was carefully examined and given a clean, warm place to lay. They were finally out of that black basement, finally free from that perpetual hell…the only existence that they may have ever known.

The emotional and financial investment that go into a rescue like this one are tremendous: Time, effort, resources, heart, and hope. Pasado’s Safe Haven wants to assure that those 14 dogs who died and the 86 who suffered will not be forgotten. Law Enforcement is also working hard to assure the proper prosecution of the individuals responsible for this display of absolute disregard for the lives of these dogs.

Margi’s husband, James, recently died unexpectedly after the investigation began. Margi claims that she had no knowledge of the condition of her dogs in that Burien basement. Because of this claim, there has been speculation that Margi may not get charged for the torture and abuse that she has been committing for decades. As she continued to let these dogs suffer without food, water, sanitation or medical attention, she was able to maintain the façade that she upheld the highest standard of care.

The owner of the Burien home, Mike Stober, knew what was occurring in his basement. He now claims that he, too, had no knowledge of the abuse and conditions that were present one floor below his own home. It is impossible that he was unable to hear the dogs’ cries and the blaring music or smell the fetid urine and feces.

Breeding is a Money-Making Business…

There are many breeders who breed their dogs for that reason alone. The dogs who had been shoved away into that Burien basement had possibly at one time been her prize dogs. When they no longer could bring money in, they became as useless as the old, rusty crates that became their prison. Many of these “once-prized” pups was denied even access to food or water.  This case is still being processed for the charges. Pasado’s is standing by to do whatever we can to assure that this person can no longer work with, own, or reside with dogs. Pasado’s feels strongly that the owner of the home should also be held accountable for allowing this inhumane treatment to exist in his home without stopping it. He, too, has a long history of working with and breeding dogs.

Adopt a Shelter Animal and SAVE A LIFE

Dogs like Tyson (at Pasado's Sanctaury) are waiting for their forever home. Adopting a shelter animal truly saves a life!

Pasado’s is committed to preventing the undue suffering and pain of innocent animals. Approximately 3 to 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized every year in shelters nationwide – a staggering 60 percent of all dogs and 70 percent of all cats who find themselves at a shelter. Five out of every ten dogs and seven out of every ten cats in shelters are destroyed simply because there is no one to adopt them. According to the National Council on Pet Population Study and Policy (NCPPSP), twenty-five percent of the dogs who enter local shelters are purebred. And according to Ralston Purina and NCPPSP, approximately 15 to 20 percent of dogs are purchased from breeders. Investigating breeding operations and puppy mills is a large part of this commitment of care. We currently have 7 suspected puppy mill cases that we are investigating.

If you are considering getting a purebred puppy for the holidays this year, please think again. Do you know where they really came from? It is so important to adopt dogs instead of breeding or buying them. Instead of supporting inhumane breeding operations, you can save a life by adopting a rescued animal. And with public pressure, we can work to shut down similar breeding operations and puppy mills and cease the demand for the “perfect” purebred. For surely, there is no perfection in cruelty and callousness. Pasado’s is one of the only 24-hour animal rescues in Washington State. We are here for the animals 365 days a year. Even though it’s the holiday season, the abuse and neglect do not cease. Please consider making a donation today to help us continue with our life-saving work. Together, we can speak for those who do not have a voice, shutting down puppy mills and prosecuting those who have caused such unimaginable pain.

Thank you – from everyone at Pasado’s Safe Haven. Together, we truly can make a world of difference.

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  • Expedia

    Disgusting. I will contribute so that she is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

  • KatieH

    Is she in jail?  If not, she and Mike Stober need to be arrested.

  • http://profiles.google.com/billball Bill Ball

    She should be arrested and locked in a small cage in a dark, dank basement.

  • D.B.

    Reading this makes me so mad at the people responsible for this.  I would classify them in the same catagory as moleters & rapists.

  • Lynchgirl

    ” It is so important to adopt dogs instead of breeding or buying them. Instead of supporting inhumane breeding operations, you can save a life by adopting a rescued animal.” <—- I suppose there is a fee for these adoptions of puppies that are "rescued" from puppy mills? You aren't just giving them away are you? Sounds pretty profitable to me. Puppy mills and the adoption industry, both huge money makers and profiteers from unethical breeding, are the problem (as well as misinformation such as is in this article), not the responsible pure-bred dog breeder. It is a fact that if you line up 20 mixed breed dog (from inhumane/unethical/unplanned breeding) in a shelter next to 1 purebred dog, that purebred dog is going out the door first (for a fee/profit) regardless of its background. The shelter turns a profit. The puppy mill breeder turns a profit. The RESPONSIBLE/ETHICAL purebred dog breeder who health tests, vaccinates, and plans breedings, and participates in promoting health and exhibiting their breed, does not turn a profit. This article fosters misinformation because the pet rescue industry is very profitable, sponsored by big business pet food/supply industry. The judge and abusers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and AKC should step up and make an example of this judge and take action against those in their membership who run puppy mills and horde/abuse their dogs. But not all breedes should be lumped into this category and the rescue industry should stop making inflammtaory accusations and spreading misinformation simply to increase their own profits made from rescue animals.

  • melissa

    THAI IS HORRIFIC, CAN’T EVEN TRUST A JUDGE FOR THE AKC.. LET HER STARVE AND SLEEP IN HER FECES AND URINE. LADY YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS, DON’T DENY IT. YOUR BUSTED

  • Jlgstrick

    You’d be surprised at how  some of these “dog show/show breeders” take care of their animals.  I have seen some appaling situations when I did some showing many years ago.  It made me sick to see how not only the dogs but they themselves lived.   And yet they were winning with select dogs they bred and that is all they cared about.  Many breed wholesale to get a few select dogs!! 

  • Lliinnddaa_55

    hamilton is a bitch.A fat, pig, that should be put in a cage for life!!

  • Panzap

    argi Hamilton
      
    Click here for Group/Breed Detail Dates

    Judge’s Number: 66429
    Judge Type: Conformation, Junior Showmanship

    Address:

    5901 189th Ave SE
    Issaquah, WA 98027-8637

    Home Telephone:

    (425) 747-7557

    CEL Telephone:

    (425) 785-7513

    Work Telephone:

    (206) 607-7250

    Email:

    baroquechis@juno.com

    Initial Breed:
    Chihuahuas

     

    Breed/Group/Class

    Status

     

    Chihuahuas

    Approved

     

    Havanese

    Approved

     

    Japanese Chin

    Approved

     

    Miniature Pinschers

    Approved

     

    Pomeranians

    Approved

     

    Pugs

    Approved

     

    Norwegian Lundehunds

    Provisional

     

    Junior Showmanship – All Breeds

    Provisional
      -  
    Mar, 08 2011

     

    Click here for Past Judging Assignments
    Click here for Future Judging Assignments

  • Sundancej4

    And sit in a jail? Warm, with food and medical care? I think not! Throw them in a cell at the USHS and let them live for 7 days in their poop with bird food and no walks. Then, put them down!!!!! Why should they get a chance? The animals didn’t! Another life; no matter how small of a being, is a sacred gift. If these humans have not evolved enough to see that. PUBLICLY HUMILIATE THEM!!!

  • anon

    Not every dog from a litter is going to be a show dog. Irresponsible/unethical breeders do participate in dog shows. That is an unfortunate fact that the AKC needs to address and hold accountable those in their membership who are unethical and inhumane. They have the ability/authority (and sometimes do) to do kennel inspections and audits. Judges should undergo manditory inspection and audit to maintain their credentials. An ethical/responsible/humane breeder places non-show dogs into loving and appropriate homes. This is the norm, not the exception that you describe. When a dog breed becomes popular through marketing and entertainment industry, it can and does oftentimes become overbred and exploited and victimized by the puppy mill (and later the rescue) industry. But many people live in less than what others might consider acceptable conditions. We should not judge an entire group based on a select few, or hold others to our standards simply because we wouldn’t want to live a certain way. I know a show dog who has a $250K+ motor home devoted to his travel to/from shows. He lives a pretty posh life. Some have more humble lives. Some people devote luxury settings to their dogs’ accommodations and live themselves in squallor. Try to paint a more accurate picture if you are going to claim to have some “inside” knowledge of the dog show world. There is good and bad in everything, including rescue, and including the AKC. The blame goes to the exploitators and abusers, and those who turn a blind eye. But blind faith and broad generalization are equally harmful.  

  • sissy bailey

    this woman should be put in a cage with no food and water or bathroom no love a tortured just like she did those poor dear loving little dogs may she burn in hell

  • Whatever

    Typical over-written, hysterical, overly dramatic misinformation. Most pure-bred dog breeders who participate in showing their animals are responsible and take incredible care of their pets.

  • Animal Lover

    People should not be able to accumulate so many dogs, WITHOUT a REGULAR INSPECTION OF THEIR FACILITIES, and some type of special license.  People running this type of buisness should be required to have a licese to breed and  board these dogs, and then spot inspections should be a regular thing to ensure horrible conditions like this don’t keep happening.  I can only imagine how many more are out there, that are oporating under the radar, and animals are living in these horid living conditions without any hope.  
    What is it going to take to make people realize that this is a crime and should never be tolerated, or accepted.  If these people can’t take care of the animals properly with decent humane care, the animals should be removed, and the buisness should be fined to allow the propper care to be established and maintained, until the animals are adopted into loving and healthy environments.
    This individual should be stripped of her ability to judge animals by the AKC, for allowing such horiible conditions to even exhist in her home/business.  Judging these beauatiful animals is a priviledge and should not be taken lightly.

  • janeenf

    People like this are just sick, but we are all the cause of the pet overpopulation problem. No matter where you get a pet - HAVE IT SPAYED OR NEUTERED.               
    There just aren’t enough homes for all the pets born every year, If we don’t allow these animals to be born, we wouldn’t have to kill them        

  • Loripollari

    The proof is in the poor animals ………

  • Em

    How does a responsible breeder, who sells purebred puppies for 2K a piece, not profit???  They do not put $2000 worth of vet care/food into one puppy. If they are not in it to make money, then why charge so much. Why not give them away for free?  Most rescues are non-profits and put far more into each animal than the $100-$200 adoption fee they may ask for.

  • Flippedstars

    Showing, health testing, proper medical care, and only 1-2 litters a year…charging $1k for a pet and $2k or so for a top show potential pup that realistically won’t be sold…you don’t make a penny. I show, breed, health test, feed raw, give the highest quality vet care…I end up 10k + in the hole every year. Not everyone wants a mutt. If someone comes to me and they do not know if my breed is the breed for them, we talk through the alternatives including rescue and/or adoption, I rarely have puppies available anyway. Not everyone wants to deal with high potential for problems that cost thousands like hip dysplasia, luxating patellas, heart problems, eye problems, etc. Whether rescues like it or not those things have a much higher potential with an unknown mix than they do with a puppy of a certain breed from a breeder health testing and proving their breeding stock in the show ring.

  • tristtan

    Doesnt matter how you try to justify it. You are a dog pimp and slave owner,

  • Flippedstars

    LOL people such as yourself really cannot be taken seriously in life.

  • Disgusted

    It is not over-written, hysterical or overly dramatized. The facts are the facts. I read nowhere the implication that ALL pure-bred breeders are bad. Just that many of them do end up in shelters. When you dispute the facts of people trying to help, all you are doing is defending the people with dogs locked up incages. STOP! My sister breeds one dog, once a year, so that local families can get an affordable $350 purebred lab, who is healthy and has been adjusted to living IN A HOUSE with love and attention. Yes, there are good people breeding but you dog breeders coming on here ranting that this overly dramatized are disgusting. Bad breeders exist, so why on earth would you ever try to help them? The rescues I know would much rather be out of business and not making $$ adopting dogs out!! That’s a fact. They are heartbroken and cry every day for what they see. You think there aren’t hobbies they would rather be doing than spending their time frantically trying to pull dogs at the last hour, who are about to be killed in shelters?? 

  • Disgusted

    HELLO!!! The rescue industry would happily go out of business if it meant there were no more animals being mistreated. They are heartbroken every day by what they see. The people working with rescues spend their own $$$$ because their hearts are so big and they don’t get enough funding. I promise you they aren’t getting rich rescuing!!! They take them to vets and feed them and care for them and may never get back in adoption fees what they spend on animals, especially the special needs ones. For you to suggest to the contrary the points I have made is deplorable. You clearly do not follow any rescue groups or go to the shelters. Try it. Walk a mile in their shoes. If your heart isn’t broken, then you don’t have one. 
    And NOWHERE in the story was anyone “judging the entire group”. It never said ALLl show dog people are bad or ALL breeders are bad. You aren’t even defending your views of this story properly. It says MANY people are breeding purely for money. I think the point of Don’t Shop, Adopt is that if purebred, “special” dogs were in less demand, then puppy mills and bad breeders would get weeded out because they would loose too much $. What is wrong with that??

  • DOG’S BEST FRIEND

    Dear, dear WHATEVER, You really are one nasty SOB, or just B, WHATEVER…After reading the article I got sick to my stomach and then wanting to puke after seeing your post.  You don’t know what MOST pure-bred dog breeders do or don’t do.  There are no statistics.  As a person I have been owned  by three Japanese Chin.  A sweeter little being has not been created.  To read that these little God sends are being treated like trash makes my eyes water.  Don’t try to defend the indefensible.  People like you are cold bastards or bitches…WHATEVER…We need more articles like this one.  Maybe, it might help light a flame in the hearts of people with just a little more warmth than you have. 

  • TempestDancer

    I happily support breeders who are responsible about their breeding practices. Knowing that the dog came from a good place, has begun training, has been bred for good qualities for generations — all of that is priceless. My husband and I are about to bring into our home our first dog together, and yes, we are paying top money for a show dog and plan to show in order to support the rare breed we’re getting.

    We tried for 2+ years to find a dog to adopt, but because of all of the rules and our own needs (must get along with cats and livestock), we were unable to find one that could fit our lifestyle. Once this new puppy is grown and settled, we will likely look at adopting a dog, as having a dog already in the home opens up our options.

  • JD

    And this is EXACTLY why Pasado’s is posting this story and completely over exaggerating the conditions. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.

  • JD

    “The Rescue industry would happily go out of business” . I HIGHLY doubt that. They make millions off of the dogs .And for the record “Disgusted” I have done rescue and am still very involved in it, but with honest rescues, not brainwashed media-whores like Pasados .

    And for anyone on here believing Pasado’s overly exaggerated version, please do a little digging into Pasado’s. O let’s see where do we start?? Hmmmm, let’s start with the donation money that the founders used to build themselves a very large and expensive house. The fraudulent fundraising, the misuse of funds. The Hurricane Katrina dogs that they used to get donations and grants from the HSUS and ASPCA and then DUMPED them in Arkansas to die on the property of a hoarder with over 300 dogs. And finally this past year our own WA State Attorney General conducted a 16 month investigation into Pasado’s and required them to re-org how they conduct fundraising and they also fined them 70,000. Please consider your “source” before condemning these old people who had too many dogs.
     

    This website will not allow me to post links, so please do a Google search on Pasado’s and Tammy Hansen. Pasado’s and the Katrina dogs,  Pasado’s and WA state Attorney General.  Or just go  to the Everett Herald online and type in Pasado’s and you will find ALL of the stories and investigations into Pasado’s.  Don’t give them your money.

  • JD

    Disgusted, I’ve found that the majority of the dog rescue people would NOT rather be doing anything else.  It’s like a sickness for them.  That is how they feed their egos.

    And this story is completely blown out of proportion in an effort for the great media whores at Pasado’s to feed their egos and most importantly to get their grubby little hands on as much money as possible.  Please do some research on their dirty past.

  • JD

    Dog’s Best Friend, please do some additional research on Pasado’s. They have a history of fraud and misrepresentation.  WA State Att. Generals office did a 16 month investigation into them.   They were fined over 70k.  Nothing that comes out of Pasado’s mouth is ever truthful.

  • Sharmicchi

    I raise and show my dogs and I have never sold a puppy for that kind of money.  I am lucky to get two or three hundred for a puppy.  My vet bills in a year are well over 5 thousand and my food bill runs me about $200.00 a month because I feed only the best food which cost $45 a bag and also I feed canned along with dry.  So when you say people sell puppies for $2000. a peice, don’t lump us all to gether. My dogs are treated better than some peoples kids and I know that they eat better.

  • JD

    Em, let’s see how about all of the vet care of the parents. The money spent on proving them in the ring, the OFA certifications for each individual breed. Those usually consist of expensive x-rays and specialized cardiac equipment, DNA testing for genetic diseases. Then there is the high quality food. The stud fees, the progesterone testing, the AIs, the ultrasound, the follow up vet visits.  The supplements. And that’s just for the parents.  If I were to add up my hours of caring for a puppy from birth to the time it goes to their screened and approved home  and charged you based on the rate that I make at work, your puppy would cost $47,040. But of course I don’t charge that. 

  • Sharmicchi

    Shame on you for putting this information out there for any weirdo to get a hold of and do something unthinkable. Think about what you are doing and maybe putting someone life in danger.  Again SHAME ON YOU

  • Anonymous

    @lynchgirl – the adoption fee is to cover their spaying/neutering, vaccinations, medical care, time it takes to place them, cost to feed them, provide shelter and to ensure the shelter can continue to save other animals in need. How ignorant are you?

  • Lynchgirl

    Oh really? What are all the donations and corporate sponsors and grants for? It’s not difficult to attain NFP status, just spend everything you make on “overhead” = salaries and “expenses.” I could make a pretty decent career out of “fostering.” I’m not ignorant at all. I know exactly how much it actually costs to provide vaccinations and to spay/neuter a dog or cat. And I also know that that services and the supplies and housing that is provided by corporations and sponsors and volunteers is a tax deductible donation for them. Pretty slick racket.

  • Lynchgirl

    No responsible breeder/exhibitor charges 2K for puppies. You are either exaggerating for effect or you are shopping with a puppy mill breeder. And the cost of exhibiting for a breeder, traveling to shows and paying for entry fees and other show expenses, can be very very expensive. As for the $100-200 adoption fee per dog not covering the cost, that’s also inaccurate. They are housing/feeding/caring in high volume from corporate and private donations and grants which exceed the expenses. The NFP industry is pretty lucrative. I find it rather misleading that this article says “you don’t know where your dog really came from” if you “buy from a puppy mill” (as if all breeders are running puppy mills), when that is exactly the case if you BUY from a shelter. If you are paying you are buying. Many pets from shelters end up right back in the shelter for another SALE. This does not often happen when a person takes the time to research which dog would be the best for their family, and sits down with a responsible breeder to help them with their choices, and then makes a reasonable investment in that decision. Shelters who “investigate” puppy mills then take over the puppy mill inventory and sell the dogs just like a pet store or the pupply mill breeder. They just manage to collect the necessary sponsorship and donations to provide a cleaner storefront, and foster out the overstocks. You don’t go to the house where the dogs/cat was “fostered” which can in some cases be just as overcrowded and filthy as a puppy mill. I’ve been to the home of a cat “fostering” lady and it was piled with crates and reaked of cat urine, and there were cats on every surface of the house. But the shelter brings them in and cleans them up and puts them in the kennel for the day to show how much better off they are. Nifty tricks.

  • Lynchgirl

    What is wrong with that is that the “rescue industry” is calling it adoption, selling the dogs/cats, etc, and requesting/receiving private donations on top of that, plus corporate sponsorship and donation, plus grants, plus volunteers. They are ”seizing inventory” and selling animals, pretending it is something noble and better than buying from a responsible/reputable breeder who is paying 100% out of pocket for the dogs they raise and exhibit and devote their singular time and attention to.

    Here’s a radical concept for you: Euthanize 100% of unwanted/unintended pets. Someone gets “investigated/busted” for operating an inhumane breeding facility/program, those dogs/cats, etc, are euthanized, no SOLD. Problem solved. Add to that regulations and requirements for registering as a breeder, and fines for not maintaining proper care. The fines can cover the cost of euthanizing the inventory if the breeder is found guilty of abuse/neglect. “Oh the poor animals”? “What a monsterous proposal”? More pets than homes is monsterous. “Why not give them away”?  Why not just turn them out on the street and let them fend for themselves. That’s what happens to most of them after they are bought from the shelter anyway, particularly cats! More neglect and abuse because most who get a dog from a shelter are not invested and haven’t taken the time to educate themselves about what it means to care for a pet. They just wanted a dog or a cat, and in the case of the cat they just throw it outside to be a nuisance to the neighborhood, and in the case of a dog they just toss it out in the yard or tie it to something all day while they are gone. Yeah….better off euthanized than ending up back in the shelter. If I buy a dog from a reputable breeder and something happens and I cannot take care of my dog, it goes back to the breeder, not to the shelter.

    The rescue industry markets dogs/cats as people. “Special needs” dogs/cats?? Really?? A dog/cat with “special needs” should be euthanized. A humane veterinarian who isn’t interested in making a huge profit (humanizing animals is big money marketing….think “pet insurance” = ridiculous) will tell you that. People who go to heoric extremes to save every dog/cat, etc, need therapy. It’s sick.

  • Lynchgirl

    Good points, Flippedstars! Puppy mill breeders can and do register litters with the AKC, but they are not likely to be spending the time/money in exhibiting their dogs, particularly because they are very likely to be “unsound” and wouldn’t show anyway. So, the least responsible choice would, of course, be the puppy mill breeder, but since the puppy mill inventory ends up at the shelter, I would say that wouldn’t necessarily be a much better choice. The most responsible choice comes selecting a breeder who can provide documentation of health testing and exhibiting successful, sound stock, as well as references from the local club.

  • Buddy

    While I am absolutely disgusted and appalled by this story, and the suffering of the animals, I wanted to mention one thing: the story states that ” Many of the dogs found within the homes were in poor health, including missing or nonexistent teeth…” Ok, if the dog’s teeth are rotten or infected (or the dog is ill for some other reason), and the dog is not getting proper vet care (or food) to deal with the issue of missing teeth - well, that is definitely terrible. (and I also understand that some of these dogs were probably so ill, or suffering so much, that they could not be saved.)

    However, just in case someone out there is thinking of adopting one of the remaining rescued dogs, please keep in mind that a dog that has some missing teeth can still be adopted (Once the dog has been examined/treated by a vet). Please understand that missing a few teeth does not mean a dog must necessarily still be very ill or suffering, even after getting good vet care - Just so you know, missing teeth are VERY common in many toy dog breeds, yet that dog may still make a fantastic pet.  For instance, some healthy small dogs may never even get a full set of teeth in the first place (some Chinese Cresteds, for example). In addition, I have seen several elderly dogs that have lost many of their teeth naturally over the years (or had them removed, just as many humans do, to deal with gradual deterioration, etc.)  These dogs were very well-cared for their entire lives, but the vet had recommended that some of their teeth should be removed as they became older.

    The main message here: Dogs with missing teeth are not that uncommon, and can still eat, play, snuggle, and make wonderful companions! Just keep in mind that of course dogs missing some teeth should be seen by a vet on a regular basis (as should all dogs) for professional care and advice. I hope that after everything they have been through, these dogs find great new homes!

  • Lynchgirl

    Furthermore, when I “adopted” my dogs from an AKC Breeder of Merit, I signed a binding contract that included returning my dogs to the breeder in the event that I could no longer care for them (I am required to inform her that I need to surrender the dogs, and she is required to accept them), as well as we exchanged personal references, as well as after visiting the breeder’s in-home kennel which was impeccable, I was required to provide a visit to my home to show that I was providing adequate shelter and safe enclosure for my dog(s). These are the classic criteria of “adoption,” and shelters do not provide or require this kind of personal attention to prospective clients. They just collect the fee and do some simple questionnaire checklist. A good breeder is part of the relationship for the life of the dog. They are invested in and accept responsibility for every dog they breed. Selling a dog and sending it out the door is not “adoption.” How is a shelter different than a pet store? They’re selling the same pets. The pets don’t care that they’ve managed to qualify as NFP. The higher price you pay from a reputable breeder affords some assurances and support/resources. The reputable breeder is available if you have problems or questions or concerns, and can provide resources for helping with training and behavior and issues with settling in. All of that is worth its weight in gold. Less than that is just for-profit, and is not “adoption.”

  • CallaghansMom

    Yes, responsible breeders can charge $2000 for puppies.  I paid $2200 for my show quality giant breed male.  He’s from top lines, fully health tested CH parents and he was given eye & heart (Echo w/doppler) clearances before he was sold.  I appreciate all of that greatly.  I’ve spent thousands on his training, food, vet care, show entries and I handle him myself in the US and Canada.  It’s a joy to do so.  It’s my hobby.  Now that he’s two I’ve started all his health testing, we’ve repeated his Echo w/doppler (which cost me $400) and we plan on doing his eyes (CERF $45), his thyroid ($100 plus shipping to the lab) and his hips & elbows (OFA $450) He may never be bred, but I have a responsiblity to his breeder and to his lines to ensure that he is a healthy representation of the breed.  We’ve completed his CGC & TDI as well.  It was my choice on what to spend my hard earned money on.  On the flip side, I also share my home with rescued dogs and cats, they receive the samel level of Vet care that my show dog does, albeit, they don’t receive health testing as they are spayed/neutered.  I’ve also been in rescue for 18 years in my home town.  I can have it all and work very hard everyday to ensure I still have the right to do so.    

  • Weasel Mom

    WOW Lynchmob-girl.. I have a RESCUED from a shelter dog!! He’s not a purebred that’s WHY I chose him.. he is the BEST damn dog I could EVER ask for!!! He was an abuse case.. so in your twisted mind he should have just been euthinized because he wasn’t a purebred & a shelter dog.. doesn’t he deserve a chance?

    What did he EVER do ? it wasn’t his fault he ended up there because before me he didn’t have a RESPONSIBLE owner … it isn’t his fault he’s NOT purebred.. he’s a RESCUE a sweet loving.. silly affectionate RESCUE dog that DOES DESERVE a chance!!!!!!!!!!.. He has a posh life,.. he gets the best food .. he goes for 3-4 walks aday regardless of rain snow or sleet.. I’m better then the postman!!!.. he has an at home caregiver to see to his needs while I’m at work SAVING other RESCUE animals.. Oh ya that’s right, .. I’m one of those dispicable people who works at an animal rescue SAVING animals REGARDLESS of pedigree ………..

    SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • JD

    Very interesting that all of my comments regarding Pasado’s and their history of fraud and misrepresentation have been removed.  If anyone wants to know the truth about Pasado’s go to the Everett Heralds website and type in Pasados and you will find all of the stories they have done on them over the past few years.  Misuse of money for personal use of the founder, fraudulent fundraising, using the Hurricane Katrina dogs to get grants from the HSUS and ASPCA then dumping them in Arkansas with a woman named Tammy Hansen who had over 300 dogs living in the mud.  This past year the WA state Att. Generals office spent 16 months investigating Pasados and fined them 70k. They are FRAUDS

  • JD

    Yes the facts are overstated and dramatized. Pasado’s has a history of lying and exaggerating. This is their way of getting everyone to donate money.  They are media whores to the very end.  

  • JD

    And for the record fucktards at Pasado’s you do NOT have permission from the owner of that dog to steal her photo from her website and post it to yours.  I’ve notified her and you can expect to be contacted by her attorney.  Her photos are her intellectual property and by posting her photo without her permission you are in violation.  Pasado’s =thieves

  • JD

    Dog’s best friend, Pasado’s has a history of lying and fraud and exaggerating to get what they want.  Do a search on them on the Everett Herald’s website  

  • Flippedstars

    It does depend on the breed…and it varies by area.

  • Flippedstars

    (pricing does, that is…). Show pups can cost quite a lot especially from good, sound, health tested bloodlines. But I don’t know many people that charge $2k + for a PET animal.

  • Lynchgirl

    why am I not surprised that you have missed the point.

    glad you found the perfect dog for you and that you are providing him with excellent loving care.

    my point is that too many pets and not enough homes = cruelty. period. and that rescue and lack of reguations/inspections on the part of AKC (the governing/regulating body for retail registered breeding programs) and USDA (the governing/regulating body for wholesale breeding operations) perpetuates, does not solve, the overpopulation and abuse/neglect problem.

    how do you, rescue angel, decide which are euthanized and which are not. out with the old and in with the new? marketability (cute dog lives, ugly dog dies)? health? age?

    I made a radical point to match the dramatics and the black/white of the initial article and the response to my post. it is not black and white. rescue is not all good or all bad. breeders are not all good or all bad. dogs/cats/etc, are not all good or all bad. but there is plenty of bad out there on both sides of the issue, and the only way to navigate through it and make the best possible decision is to do research, get educated, and realize that there is good and bad on both sides, not paint one as all good and the other as all evil.

    your treatment of your dog isn’t really relevant to the overall issue of animal cruelty. in the case that is portrayed in the article above, rescue isn’t really relevant either. the issue is proper oversight by AKC and USDA to prevent puppy mills from operating and members from hording. rescue does not eliminate puppy mills. they just seize the inventory and sell it, just like it would be sold from the pet store.

    calm down.

  • Lynchgirl

    sure! totally depends on the breed and on the buyer, but I would say the $2K pricetag amongst ethical breeders is the exception, unless it is being shipped or is otherwise valuable to the breeder, in which case they are likely not selling to the average buyer, but to someone interested in getting into the fancy themselves. The average buyer just looking for a particular breed, if they get a $2K price quote, I would say it is likely that they are dealing with a mill. Any reputable breeder I know isn’t going to put a dog worth $2K into an “average” pet home.

  • Flippedstars

    Please read this article for more facts versus emotional over-dramatic politically incorrect reporting found HERE …    usnews. msnbc. msn. com/_news/2011 /12/01/9145417- dog -show-judge-linked-to -animal- abuse-case
    you will have to remove the spaces, Pasado’s has banned the posting of this link.

  • Flippedstars

    Well I think that’s the thing…they ALL are so valuable it’s hard to part with them. But I don’t charge $2k for a pet LOL. And so far anything show quality has stayed with me. After it is finished it either becomes someone’s spayed beloved pet or becomes part of my breeding program. So I don’t make any money off of them and in reality it costs me  lot, but I enjoy working with them and the sport so it is a fair trade IMO.

    For what it’s worth, to show a very NICE specimen of a breed to it’s championship, it can cost anywhere from $3000-$6000. Since this is my hobby, but showing is also, I feel, a necessary part of ensuring I have not become kennel blind, I do not factor more than half of show costs into what I charge for a puppy. But, because I show, and because more often than not BOTH parents are health tested champions that are temperamentally sound, I do get a good price for a pet. That said, I still am always in the hole! Plus I have less than 3 puppies available per year most of the time. I am some puppy mill, huh?

    Trust me when I say you will NEVER see the quality of dog or companion I produce in a shelter or rescue, breed specific or not. And I do not fault someone for wanting that kind of animal!

  • Weasel Mom

    We don’t rescue for cuteness.. we rescue out of NEED.. the abused, the discarded, the neglected.. the unwanted and try & give them hope, love & homes.. we aren’t in it to make money.. we are in it to save a life and try & get the laws changed

    The article NEVER said all breeders where bad.. it merely stated that this lady should have KNOWN better being a AKC judge & being a dog breeder..

    The laws need to change!! plain & simple.. better laws, better control on animal overpopulation, animal hoarding, animal cruelty ect.. 

    I did NOT miss your point! 

  • Lynchgirl

    Thanks! I saw that original story. I’ll be following along, as it is disturbing to have a judge (but she wouldn’t be the first) allegedly involved in this, and I want AKC to step up and take action if she is found to be responsible for the care/treatment of the dogs in the report. who knows what could be in play in this case. there’s a lot of spite and malice in the dog world, but there is also a lot of cruelty and abuse. it could go either way, I don’t personally have the facts…..and these articles do not provide them.

  • Lynchgirl

    A person who wants to provide a loving and healthy home to a pet is never at fault, regardless of where they get them! :)  it would be nice if the “shelter/rescue industry” (and I call it “industry” because I never fall for the NFP status hoax in any context, rescue or otherwise) was as supportive of the responsible/ethical breeder who is doing all of the health testing and devotion to sound dogs placed in healthy loving homes, as the ethical/responsible breeders are supportive of rescue. I know plenty of breeders who are also involved in their breed rescue efforts/groups because they are devoted to the breed. I do not see the same support coming from groups such as Pasado’s; only misinformation to further their own agenda to get their inventory out the door.

  • Lynchgirl

    I’m sure some of the foster homes think they are doing something for nothing out of the kindness of their very generous hearts for animals in need of hope and love. that’s great for them and for the dogs.

    at the top of the food chain it is a for-profit venture. period. if they can get volunteers to do the dirty work for free, great, more money for the top! this is how the NFP industry works.

    the article promotes, and the agenda of groups like Pasado’s is, rescue rather than purchase from a breeder, and they will go as far as to say that there are negative health/behavior consequences associated with pure breeding programs (misinformation) in order to further their agenda of SELLING “rescue” pets.

    what you do and how you care for your companions is not the issue. rescuing based on cuteness was never what I was implying. I was asking you how do you play god when it is time to choose which animals to euthanize? of course, you do not personally make that decision, that comes from policy set at the top, right? so, how do they choose? what are the criteria? Age? Health? Time (out with the old, in with the new?) Appearance/marketability (cute sells, ugly dies)? Temperament (happy sells, cranky dies). Size (big dies/small lives because big costs more to house/feed)?

    so I still think you are missing the point.

    but it is true that it isn’t the dogs’ fault that NFP groups are corrupt. I just don’t personally buy their claim that they have anything to do with reducing the pet overpopulation problem or the issue with puppy mills and animal cruelty. and when they title an article “Pasado’s Seeks Maximum Sentencing” it gives the false impression that they have anything at all to do with the decision or outcome in that regard. They can provide evidence, but they aren’t involved in seeking sentencing. The people mentioned in the article haven’t even been charged with anything, and realistically the judge’s name could be on the ownership registration of the dogs and she could be completely without knowledge of what was happening to them if they were co-owned and living with someone else. I co-own both of my dogs, and my breeder does visit my house because we are friends, but she co-owns with plenty of other families that she doesn’t see unless she needs to breed with them. That’s pretty normal. There could be much more to this case than is stated in this article. Innocent until proven guilty. The man living above the filthy basement seems pretty obvious and I hope if he is guilty that he is duly punished. The judge should have been more responsible with dogs she has her name on, but we’ll see how it plays out before…judging…

  • Lynchgirl

    And it is true that Pasado’s is removing any mention of articles that cast their reputation/ethics in doubt….as a poster had mentioned earlier – his posts have been removed. But I do appreciate that they also removed an earlier post that contained personal information for the judge in question, even though it is public on the ACK site. I’m not crazy about the fact that they have posted a show photo without permission from the photographer. Copyright infringement??

  • Shari

    Rescue industry. At our local shelters, 90% up to 8,000 per year in one local shelter are euthanized, probably at 25% purebred, from St. Bernards and Great Pyrenees to toy poodles and chihuahuas. Rescuers save the few they can afford to, including ourselves. It costs thousands to save a litter of parvo puppies. I currently have 2 Pyrenees recovering from patella surgery (check the pricesof that). Have treated three for heartworms this year. All are spayed, neutered and fully vetted, on hw and flea preventative. It costs 135.00 to 175.00 to transport to adopters up north, whose homes are checked, as well as vet references and many hours are spent before and after adoption, first making sure it is good match and then counseling the adopters with any questions/ problems they may have. Then if there is a divorce a foreclosure or an illness, the dog goes back to the rescue to be rehomed. The adoption fees of the rescues I work with range from $150.00 to $425.00. Do the math lady. How many rescues have you worked with? Check the prices for s/n, , fecals, hw tests and tests for endemic illnesses, hw and flea/tick preventatives and vaccines in your area. Tell me then how much profit is made. Then add in the costs for all the sick animals, hw positive dogs and dogs who need orthopedic or eye surgery and tell me how much money is made. We also feed holistic, premium foods for which we pay. Meanwhile the breeders of these dogs sell them at flea markets and in megastore parking lots or on the internet and leave rescuers to clean up their  mess. Yes, there are many reputable breeders, who breed to the betterment of the dogs, but those are not the ones who make money from breeding. If you are making a profit breeding or rescuing animals, you are wrong.

  • Lynchgirl

    “…..A high-profile animal-welfare charity has agreed to reform its fundraising and business practices as part of a settlement reached to close a 16-month investigation by the state attorney general’s office.Pasado’s Safe Haven must comply with court orders barring it from misrepresenting how it will use money raised to help animals, including during natural disasters. The nonprofit also agreed to restructure its accounting practices and to get training for its leaders. The agreement also specifically bars Susan Michaels, one of Pasado’s founding members, from serving on the board or working in executive management, roles that she had held for years.All of the changes are designed to ensure that a well-meaning charity that aims to help animals will stand a good chance of avoiding problems moving forward, said Shannon Smith, the assistant state attorney general who handled the case …. In court papers, state attorneys said that from 2005 to 2009, evidence shows Pasado’s failed to keep separate the nonprofit’s finances from the personal business of some employees, and that the mixing involved credit card use, bank accounts and even real estate. The state said Pasado’s also took money while misrepresenting its ability to assist in natural disasters (hurricane Katrina) and misled by promising care for specific animals. ”

    we’ll see how long this post survives the censors…

  • Updates

    I’ve posted the link to the article you suggested to the top of the story above.  :)

  • Lynchgirl

    If I were a volunteer or staff at a “rescue” where the administrators were misappropriating funds while I scraped by to care for animals that were suffering and had to be euthanized because of “lack of funds” I would be very very very angry. Fact is the staff and volunteers are not aware of where the money comes from or how much or where it goes. They just think there “isn’t enough.” Lots of corruption and misappropriation in NFPs. AKC is a NFP. I don’t doubt their administrators are better paid than I am, and that they have huge “budget issues.”

  • Lynchgirl

    how many parvo puppies do you suppose could have been rescued for what Pasado had to pay in their court settlement to the State Attorney General for their misappropriation of funds/fraud case in 2010, where they were ordered to clean up their unlawful/unethical business and accounting practices? Probably lots, huh? How many dogs were euthanized so that the administrators could pocket money for private expenses and property? Probably lots, huh? My post that quoted the Everett Herald article about the investigation was deleted, of course…

  • shrowaja

    I wish cases like this didn’t bring about the anti-breeder sentiment. I have purebred dogs and I have mixed breeds. I love them both. I get the purebreds because I love everything about the breed: their temperament, coat, build, etc. I purchased them from a reputable, responsible breeder who health tests, shows, and maybe has a litter every few years. Don’t lump these responsible breeders in with the crazy, hoarder, in-it-for-a-buck backyard puppy millers. There is a difference and the public needs to wake up and do their research before purchasing, or adopting, a dog. AKC registration doesn’t mean all that much; consumers need to look deeper than that. and don’t make me out to be a bad person because I chose a purebred.

  • Bluevortex

    Wow.  You have a lot of time on your hands and seemingly a lot of hate in your heart.  How many animals could you have saved in all the time that you have been spreading negative comments?
    You should do your research.  Pasado’s has went through a lot of changes – positive changes that needed to happen.  Don’t crucify the new people who are working around the clock to do all they can for animals in need. 

  • Marie

    I am so sickened by the horrific treatment of these animals.  The happiest day will be when we can put all these sick and cruel people out of business.  These are people who knew better.  I don’t think this treatment will end until sentences are much harsher plus hefty fines.    These people belong in jail and not just for a few days.  They give good responsible breeders a bad name and we know that there are many out there.  I know people often want pure breeds but think first about shelter dogs.  I have a rescue dog and she is the most loving dog even with her tough first two years.

  • Dog’s Best Friend

    I may have missed something, but is this your form of cynical sarcasm?  I have had 2 Chin with “special needs”…heart murmur… and both lived out full lives with cheap medicine.  I’m am forever greatful that these little people, yes I said people, were not put down.  They were both neutered, so there was no fear of propagating babies with poor health which could further weaken the breed.  I believe people like you need therapy.

  • Ezhmkee

    Yes rescue organizations charge a fee, this is how vet care is paid for, how grooming and feeding are paid for and how transportion cost are paid for. Many organizations provide in home care not kennels not cages and sometimes dogs (and other animals too)are rehabilitaed for months .The cost of vet care alone can run into the thousands of $ . Severe skin diseas, missing limbs, eyes, spay and neuter, rotten teeth needing to be pulled, shots ARE NOT “free”. The breeders I know also will take a dog back in ANY stage of its life if the owner cannot any longer care for them.For many it is not about making money but the quality of dog, health and genetics issues. I do agree that there are many problems within the dog community looking for that perfect dog. I believe that any one who treats another living being in this manner needs punishment but the attitude you see in this case is not new-all my dogs have been puppy mill survivors and I am sure that there health costs came to far more than the $150 igave to my rescue organization.I think the AKC needs to re-examine the “cost” of registrations for “pure breed” dogs they make the money as people continue to believe that an akc dog is the best. Think of how many dogs are registereed and multiple that by the fee do you hear multi million???

    ezhmkee

  • Shari

    This comment is in response to Lynchgirl. I am aware that there are thousands or more reputable, conscientious breeders who live to improve the breed, in health, temperament and conformation. I personally know many and I respect them. These are the breeders who only have a few litters a year, are very restrictive and discerning about who gets their puppies and require those who are pet quality be s/n either before leaving with their new parents or will not send ownership papers until they have proof of this. They also take back and rehome any of their pups, at whatever age, no matter what the reason. They provide health guarantees and documentation for testing of the sire and dam for any genetic disease, be they orthopedic, ocular, or any genetic diseases common to theirspecific breed. And they lose money every year, not make a profit. Unfortunately there are the backyard breeders, puppy mill breeders and designer dog breeders, who do not provide sanitary living conditions, vet care, have facilities similar to those described in this article and sell their pups, over the internet, at flea markets, in parking lots. Many families are broken hearted when the puppy is sick and dies and they have no recourse. When the economy is down or animals become ill these people in this particular industry, dump the the dogs by the side of the road, kill them themselves, often inhumanely or dump at shelters who cannot turn them away to be euthanized at taxpayer expense. Many of these shelters call rescues begging rescues to save these precious lives (precious even though imperfect, as are most of us). Sure there are some rescues who do go wrong, usually due to a lack of money and overcomittment, and there are opportunists as well. I would be very interested to see where the big money you describe comes in? Could you please elucidate me on where you obtained your figures? I have worked with a number of 501c3 rescues who are required to file their figures with the IRS or lose their status as a non-profit. Obviously you must be aware of a huge stream of grants and money out there of which none of us are aware. I await your reply, as I could help so many more innocent victims if only I and the rescuers and rescues with which I am associated could be pointed in the right direction.
    With utmost sincerity and love for all animals.

  • shari

    I truly believe this of reputable breeders as yourself snd respect you. Thank you for your high stantards.

  • animal lover

     I wonder why you are so vituperative? Were you or an animal you loved wronged by a rescue or maybe a rescue turned you down as an adopter? How have you been involved in rescue that you are so knowledgeable of all the myriad aspects upon which you comment? I guess most of the commenters are here in defense of animals and/or rescues and reputable breeders, but I am not sure what you are tryng to convey with these diatribes.

  • Clayton mcbride

    I would like to get a female pom. to keep my 6 y.o. male company, But I don’t see any listed.

  • RubixCube747

    The shelters are run by volunteers you imbosile people breed animals to make a profit. Want to know how I know this to be true?? I run my own shelter for any animal any condition the only people I pay are the trainers and thats out of my own pocket! I pay trainers so animals that have been abused are taught properly and the ones that are to violent we keep, carry on to train them even if we can’t get any further with it. People like you infuriate me you have gotten everything all wrong and twisted yet you will sit there reading this with a little smirk on your face going yeah yeah yeah. I ask for an adoption fee for the bills aka food, heat, vets etc. It isn’t even that much and yeah a pedigree may go first but so what I know loads of people that will take a mongeral over a pedigree  any day of the week.
    So in future get your facts right before you go on sprouting that rubbish!!

  • RubixCube747

    You really are stupid! Mill breeders are some of the worst people to buy an animal off as they are full of illness due to the fact that they are purebred just look a labradours!!

  • Doglover

    You don’t make any sense.  You couldn’t find any dog in 2+ years that could get along with cats and livestock – but a breeder can create a dog that gets along with cats and livestock.  Is that what you are seriously saying?  You plan to show it but then because you already will have a dog, you might look at adopting one.  The “rules” to adopt a dog!?  Sounds like you didn’t have an appropriate home if you couldn’t meet basic rules to adopt a shelter dog. You’re showing your dog to support the rare breed.  You need a reality check – people show for money.  Plain and simple.  Wonderful Shelter pets die because of people like you.  Breeding at all brings more animals into the world when there are millions dying every day.  All puppies are born innocent, all puppies deserve to be loved, all puppies deserve a home and to live a full life.  You’re lucky that people aren’t euthanized due to their heritage or looks or intelligence (or lack of it).  Just know how your precious puppy’s mother and father lived.  Miserably.  NO breeder keeps their baby machines in nice warm loving homes.  They are locked away, never given medical care, love or attention.  If you believe otherwise, you’re fooling yourself.  Just like this article – wow, you would think a JUDGE for the AKC would treat her baby machines in such luxury – yeah a dark cold basement with no light, food or water, living in their own feces and urine – classy.  And no one ever knows because the puppies are SO cute.  You’re a sad, delusional woman.

  • Em

    I was neither exaggerating nor talking about a puppy mill breeder. My friend  paid 2K for her purebred puppy 5 years ago. She didn’t buy it from a puppy mill breeder and she didn’t buy it as a show dog.

    I in no way support Pasado’s~I know too much about their “executives”.  There are plenty of non-profit’s that don’t bring in all the money you seem to think they do. Many owe more in vet bills each month than they raise in donations. Getting corporate and private donors is not easy to do in today’s economy. You should volunteer for a rescue and try putting a fundraiser together. I can pretty much guarantee that the “big” money you talk about won’t come flowing in. You can look up the tax returns of registered non-profits, so I would love to know which ones you are speaking about, so I can look them up and see how “lucrative” they are.

  • http://twitter.com/dancegenie Jean Bird

    ‘Top lines’ means they are so inbred that they have many congenital health problems. For example the original British Bull Dog looked nothing like it does today, they cannot breathe properly because of deep inbreeding, the same with spaniels, many have seizures because the skull is now bred to be so small (just to look how humans want them to look) that their brain is too big for the their skull and so they suffer excruciating headaches constantly. The German Shepherd has been bred to ensure the back legs are lower to the ground giving them a sloping back and the more it slopes the better, as far as the judges & breeders are concerned. This causes hip problems which culminate in the dog’s back legs being unstable and unable to support their body, this happens from the age of approx 7-8yrs! Not nice is it? That’s just a couple of examples so give me a mongrel any day.

  • http://twitter.com/dancegenie Jean Bird

    Vituperative?? I had to look that one up in my dictionary.

  • Enloc

    Hamilton is not a puppy mill. Due to the sensationalism and blatant disregard for fact in the above press release, it would seem that she is. Important details, though, are left out: some of the dogs living in feces, urine, and deplorable conditions in the Burien home may have been co-owned by Hamilton, but this does not mean that she was responsible for their care. Many news outlets have reported that the dogs in her Issaquah home were in cean cages and healthy and acceptable conditions, but were seized anyway.

    Under the AKC system, Hamilton may have been a co-owner on dogs (especially likely if she was a breeder) but not have been the one to whom their care fell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/NatashaQuilceda Natasha Quilceda Lovell

    I had a similar situation with ‘rules’ in trying to provide a very loving home to a shelter cat… My family and I went to the local shelter, when they were trying to do a mass adopt-out due to possible flooding. We told the agent deliberately that we wanted a claws-intact, preferably young cat, for the reason that our pets, unless seriously ill, live outdoors – and prefer it that way. They like breathing outside air and roaming over several acres (yes, we have fences). We were nearly turned down as a home for the simple reason that we would keep the cat outdoors, as cats have been for centuries! If it weren’t for the fact that they had an older cat who had been returned three times, we would not have gotten a cat at all. And we DO take good care of our animals, I myself can provide basic medical care, and have successfully treated my goats for various ailments. I’ve lost a grand total of 7 goats out of having owned 80+, and all but one were stillborn. We just rescued a sheep, and in three weeks had her back from starvation to normal health. My three legged {outdoor} dog lived for 12 years with minimal discomfort. Our previous {outdoor} cat died of natural causes at age 16. I’m an ex-4-Her with 10 years intensive learning experiences (and no, I don’t show for money – goat-showing is a money-losing venture no matter what). And they didn’t want to let us adopt a cat because it would live outside (even with access to a VERY secure barn)…there’s GREAT logic for you.   Maybe instead of asking whether the prospective people will keep the animal inside or outdoors, they should ask for personal references, or ask to visit the home…

  • Memoryschild

    Why were the 14 dogs euthanized? Were they old?

  • Cowlady18

    I hope all the parties to this cruelty are barred from ever owning another animal & that the AKC Judge is punished more harshly than the others.  She needs to lose her job, pay a fine & face jail time.  If ANYONE should have known better, it would be her!
    I’m glad to hear the surviving dogs are now safe.  I feel awful for the 14 who were euthanised but I understand it’s the more humane option in some cases.

  • Patience Miller

    At least you now admit the rescues can’t be making any money per your own agreement with the previous post since they don’t get anywhere near $1000 per adoption.  Most rescues barely survive.

    Sadly I have been disappointed with most dog breeders, even so called good ones.  Breeding and showing dogs is all about human ego and has nothing to do with the dogs at all.  So much evil is done by humans and their ego and wants.

  • Patience Miller

    The rescues I know will not adopt a dog to be an outside only dog for good reason.  Most outside dogs are alone nearly 24 hours a day and lack socialization.  They live in small backyards or tied to a doghouse.  That is the reality of most outside dog where I live.  They live a sad and miserable life.

  • Patience Miller

    Really?  And you have visited them all?  And I notice you say ‘most’, well most can be 51 percent so that leaves a lot who don’t.   I have heard the stories of what is done to some dogs at dog shows.  Dog shows are all about human ego, not for the good of the dog at all.  They are sickening displays of human pride and.

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